JavaScript is disabled. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. Full status of woman law is enforced. These three are weird. The Faith of Zun is a sun-worshiping pagan religion introduced in the Charlemagne expansion. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Generic Tengri paganism allows for more levies. However, the longer the faith goes unreformed, the weaker it becomes. Great work!!! AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. Tengri and Aztec pagans do not have defensive attrition (though Tengri invaders can ignore it). Thread starter Mr. Moonlight; Start date Sep 13, . Dogmatic Nature + Unrelenting Doctrine is a pretty powerful combination as it gives a flat 10% attack bonus to all units as well as makes your religion MA always high meaning easier polythesising, not to mention the removal of pagan attrition from your reformed religion, allowing you to continue ripping pagan lands to shreds without melting. "Why would you want infidels to tolerate you? Reformer becomes the first religious head. I will explain some of my choices based on how it worked out in my games. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. +10% Attack for all units. In game terms, reformed pagans no longer face the restrictions on crown authority, succession, independence wars and conversion that other pagans do. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. Independent lieges of this religion can construct, Religion is resistant to proselytizing + Stability, Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full + Stability, Religion is resistant to proselytizing. Only if I could mark "Helpful" multiple times Is making your concubine who was a "raid-captured daughter of enemy duke" your vassal queen, and then murdering her an exploit? Choosing you own heir and not receiving penalty opinion for raised levies it too good to pass up. Defensive pagan holdings also have larger garrisons (bonus varies per religion), making them harder to siege. A religion's nature determines its attitude toward warfare and religious conversion. The version without a religious head and Great Holy War becomes a heresy and is called the "Old" version of the religion. It's not something that occurs at the press of a button, but with a little effort, you can make even the most stalwart pagan take a knee to your faith. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Some other day I read that this isn't a bug and it's working as intendent IMO Enatic is much, much better than Agnatic, because Agnatic prevents you from matri marrying, which means any chance to get a non-crafted bloodline is over, and because there are immensely more targets for matriarchal deposition than there is for the opposite. Certain pagans have access to additional succession laws. Leadership. Some of them are stronger than the regular doctrines. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. Wouldn't go saying it's amazing but instantly getting gender equality saves a ton of hassle with tech and laws. Incompatible with Agnatic Clans, Harmonious, Equality, Polygamy and Meritocracy doctrines. The last playable Slavic ruler is Chief Testislaw of Dyrmin. There are provinces with Bn faith in Tibet throughout the game but last playable rulers vanish in 1251, leaving Buddhists ruling Tibet. No male in the council. Duke-tier religious heads common for all realms. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. It's aimed at more of the casual/intermediate player. I haven't tried Perun+Daring, I wonder if it would give pirate trait. It requires either control of three holy sites and 50% moral authority, or control of all five holy sites. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous Disagree. Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. Tengri, worship of the Sky Father, is the religion of the Steppe and the bulk of its followers are nomads, whose lands stretch from Danube to Mongolia. Also for flavour. Pagans being attacked in a holy war by Christians or Muslims may choose to save their realms and end the war by accepting the faith of the invaders. Ive heard it is currently bugged. Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. The faith is in a strong position in the 769 start as north Africa is mainly ruled by tiny Muslim realms which can easily be conquered after consolidating your position in the south. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Tribal Islam is up to the point of being overpowered. Full status of woman law is enforced. Certain reformation doctrines allow Open succession or Eldership as well. Also Temporal gives u cool(gives tons of piety and prestige per month) lvl 4 artifact . As such, it is best used when the player is ready for their nation to "mature" from aggressive expansion against small targets to needing to maintain an empire. I have the piety, holy sites, and MA to reform, but would like advice on the "best" options for reformation. AI looter prefer coastal counties. C. Civilized/Religious Tax: The best Doctrine you can possibly pick. that's why those two are different Branches of Christianity, there's big enough difference on some of the theological matters. a situation/mechanic that doesn't resemble real life in any meaningful way. Ruler can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attribute. Faith is widespread in earlier starting dates, among the multitude of petty rulers, but is in decline from 1066 onwards. However, the religion's holy sites are scattered far and wide making reformation very hard. Incompatible with Eternal Riders and Invaders doctrines. Ancestor Veneration A for Power, A for Fun, Bloodthirsty Gods B- For Power, A for Fun, Stability/Children of Perun (Slavic)/Survivor of Ukko (Suomenusko). Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. When you finally select to reform the religion, you will have to choose from many Natures and Doctrines which ones will represent you. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. The below table contains all 53 religions from Crusader Kings II, along with all religion IDs, for use in console commands such as religion. Historically, the pagan faiths were gradually supplanted by Christianity, Islam, Dharmic religions, and Eastern religions, but this does not necessarily happen in the game. But, aside from Germanic/Zun, they are identical, except for slightly different flavor text and Slavic "Jarilo" event. Due to the Germanic faith's long and combative relationship with Catholic western Europe, there are a number of unique events between them. Reformed offensive pagans no longer lose prestige when at peace. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. While you're spreading religion across the world, why not check out some of our other guides on Crusader Kings II. (AI rulers are likely to accept the reformed religion if cynical, same dynasty as the reformer, or under control of a reformed ruler.) Such penalties usually function to prevent any rival faith from taking their lands in spite of being relatively weak and of a rival faith that normally could be easily holy warred. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. There is a trait that gives u another +5 same religion opinion. Animistic effects. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). Example: Your sister matri marries some guy from Ashina dynasty, they have a daughter for example, all you have to do is to matri marry her to your male heir. I feel it is a waste of slot and good for role play only. Edit: mixed it up, retaining matrilineal lines if you ever want to go back to male rulers will be trouble, not the other way around. Large nomadic realms continue to grow in strength as long as the khans continuously increase the number of empty holding slots they control. Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. With Divine Marriage and Hierocratic leader as a vassal, you can repeatedly divorce and marry the same close relative, each time gaining free money or prestige, and piety. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Holy sites: Djimi, Draa, Gao, Kano and Wagadu. Invaders are only here because they have 3 shitty doctrines that are good when they are packed in one slot. I wish it was more interactive (e.g. Germanic pagans do especially well since they get free ships, can navigate rivers, and are close to prime raiding targets. I think Polygamy would be powerful. If you want internal stability, pick Hierocratic and enjoy your excommunications. All holders of holdings do not have to be Muslim for this tax to apply the top ruler being it is enghout. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (e.g. I've played as African pagan a lot since HF dropped and I'd never ever take TG over AV. Enatic and Agnatic clans allow us to get open succession law which is super strong as we know from muslims. Raiding unavailable if culture doesnt allow raiding. The devs deliberately made it so that certain societies will let you remain a member even if you are the "wrong" religion. Also, as tech advances, rival feudal realms can take advantage to construct better buildings for greater economic and military power. I enjoy and make videos of strategy games, RPGs, and more usually in the form of crazy challenge runs, character roleplaying, or other ways to spice things up. Finding one of the few Hellenic characters, and having them educate your child or granting them a title: This page was last edited on 16 August 2022, at 07:19. That deserves recognition. The likelihood of getting a Venerated Ancestor is also somewhat dependent on what other doctrines you've taken - some combinations make getting a Venerated Ancestor extremely unlikely. It has its downsides because it makes AI more aggressive and incompetent AI can tank our MA very hard. + Bloodthirsty Gods, Seabound, Unrelenting. Sky Burials. Crusader Kings II. The sun is reflected beautifully on his bald head. The resulting empty holding slots further strengthens the horde. Hierocratic/Autocephalous is also doable but the religious head can be a real moron and not call GHW as soon as it becomes available. However, the Tengri faith does not die out during the entire period of the game and there are always relatively strong rulers for it in the game. It is important to quickly convert vassals who still follow the old faith due to the large opinion penalty. Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. Ancestor Worship decision available. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. Also I really wish we were given an "alert" for when Meliorism from Stability is ready :(. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. But it's because I favor Unyielding nature, and those two don't work well together. As for best leadership, it depends. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. I would say go with the form of paganism you like best. I mean making the enemy duke your vassal king through external inheritance? All rights reserved. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Also I would totally put Survivors of Ukko higher. If gender flexibility is desired, Ancestor Veneration can be chosen for Eldership succession. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. However, you may convert to an organized religion and change the succession law to the more useful (regular) gavelkind. which is available immediately to Tribal realms with a reformed pagan religion). Well. Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. 2019, Foreign missionaries become more effective, venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Pagans&oldid=43605, Play As temporal head you get to choose who to venerate. Which religion is best? It's a bit of a challenge but shouldn't be too much for any player with a bit of experience. "IN THEORY" 95% of the time it works every time. This shows another bonus from raiding culture; with the combination of Equality and concubinage, kidnapping male princes also allows for strong claims for heirs on raided lands, and the prestige of having noble male consorts for female rulers. Women can take up to 3 consorts. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. I like equality. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. Both my character and Christianity are based. Although I admit the bloodline bugs with male consorts are beyond annoying. You also have to remember the example you've given is a really fringe situation exploiting several mechanics. Standard stuff for defensive pagans. Romuva is the faith of the peoples on the east coast of the Baltic Sea, worshiping such deities as Dievas, Perkunas, and Laima. The principal ability of defensive pagans (Romuva, Slavic, Suomenusko & African) is a tremendous boost in combat when fighting on home ground. Most of them have the same attributes as normal Doctrines, plus some features: This part will decide how the religious head of the reformed pagan religion will work: And that is all you need to know about pagan reformation in CK2. In early start dates Kiev is vulnerable to Tengri nomads (it borders the Magyars), so you may find that fabricating a claim to conquer Rugen is an easier way to get your third holy site. Enatic Clans doctrine is extra powerful because one can easily 'breed in' several bloodlines by simply doing matrilineal marriages over a few generations. Enatic-cognatic law is available. As I said, civilized isnt good for Roman emperor as he is locked into imperial elective, and lets be honest, if we are reforming hellenic religion then we are 99% roman emperor, Problem, realize that I'm a couple months late, but stability is a doctrine, not a nature, sorry, that's bugging me, "I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty.". Youre all but guaranteed the successor you want, and unlike Open succession you dont have to worry about your AI heir doing stupid things when you land them. Tax on subjects of different religious group is allowed. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (eg Hellenic). Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . Thread starter AwesomeKeith; Start date Mar 26, 2016; Jump to latest Follow Reply . Late to the party but I like this one; for the purpose of acquiring bloodlines. Cannot create Warrior Lodge if it does not already exist. I agree with most of what you said but I would put the Civilised doctrine as tier 1. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You have the pentarchy system, a patriarch if you are king tier or higher, no pope who steals your money, no overpowered crusades and the like etc. Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion. Religious tax wouldn't be that high tier for me, I see it as rather pointless. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. With Holy Fury, the Hellenic and Bn faiths can be reformed. Keeping moral authority high is also a problem due to weak realms who often lose religious wars. "Offensive" pagans get a bonus to their levy size (+30% levy size for Germanic, for example). Because of this, it is usually strategically advisable to hold off on reforming your religion until your realm is at a multiple-kingdom level, and to make sure to exploit any subjugation or county conquest CBs against nearby easy target pagans before reforming your religion. You want to play Sunni, because you can either get free learning or piety for even faster conquests. Generic Paganism and Hellenism, obivously. It got to the point where I was raiding not based on gold or number of holdings or artifacts or anything like that, but simply based on the size of the ruler's court; I figured it would give me more chances to capture folks for the sacrifices. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. The opinion bonus and extra piety is always useful, which translates into a more stable realm. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. (There is one exception. Hellenism (Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit), Incompatible with Religious Tax and Civilized doctrines, Incompatible with Sons of Ragnarok doctrine. PegaluxX. Valve Corporation. When the religion is reformed, rulers of the faith may choose to accept or reject the new order of things. You can take Temporal with AV. Dogmatic: See above. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? Crusader Kings 2 ; Best Pagan mods for CK2 Best Pagan mods for CK2. I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. To debate theology, go elsewhere. I can't disagree strongly enough with this. Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. Eternal Raiders will take away bonus for levy and light cavalry and give us 10% bonus attack for all our troops, don't know if its fair exchange, I will do maths later, and as I said polygamy just sucks and is a prestige drain, on top of that now tribals with polygamy mechanic (muslims and reformed pagans with polygamy) will use wife mechanics instead of concubines. Agnatic, stability are very safe options, but with the ship tech boost i always manage to kidnap one of "Niall of the 9 hostages" bloodline carrier, then incorporate tanistry after 2 gens into my empire. you proselyte by sword, not by word. Either Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle has a free holding, The count holding the chosen county is Germanic or Reformed Germanic, and accepts the creation. Cosmopolitan: I used it once, its fun, allows us to snatch some alliances with infidel neighbours, or non-aggro pacts with infidel vassals. BTW, excommunications make king viceroys actually viable and not a PITA: you can excommunicate, arrest and execute a king viceroy whenever you like it, and appoint a new one. +1 piety per month while at peace. Depends on what you want. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Now you have to choose from many CK2 Doctrines two that you think will fit most with your Pagan Reformation. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. Nature: Peaceful ( you will rule a massive empire as a Roman and will mostly have Vassal Kings. your character tries to convert them personally, like carousing or something). Suomenusko retains a sizable number of provinces throughout the game and it is very easy to put the fear of Ukko to other religions, whether you start in 769, 867 or 1066. It is not normally playable (even with Ruler Designer), but can be played using mods or by exploiting loopholes. However, all the random events based on traits (which drop relations by 15 for those without and raise by 15 for those with the trait) are the same, along with the end bonus of 100 piety and prestige and +15 to vassal relations for one year. Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). Havent seen many posts about reforming the Bon religion. True, but I wanted to avoid cheese/gamey mechanics when making this tierlist. Some Religions (Germanic) keep +30% Levies when they reform and will only loose it through unyielding. Cairo is distant and usually controlled by major Muslim powers. Temporal rests power with you, and gives you bonuses, and you can . Pagans have great difficulty holding large realms together. There are better options for mix-maxing/efficient play. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority Holy sites: Perm, Ryazan, Novgorod (shared with Slavic), Saaremaa, and Kexholm. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are . +15 vassal opinion. Diviner read signs before a war to try to improve troop morale. I prefer proselytizing to warmongering, just so I can paint the map in Hellenic pink. Autonomous leadership also enables four branches: With the new reformation system, some synergies occur which present new abilities or opportunities to characters of this specific reformed religion. Reformed pagans no longer get a defense attrition bonus, and will incur attrition in the territory of unreformed pagans, except those who follow the old form of their own religion. West African religion is a blanket term for the diverse pagan beliefs of the tribes of Sub-Saharan West Africa. Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). By choosing to reform your pagan religion, you will lose all the old advantages such as attrition for enemies and subjugation wars, but gain all the bonuses of a civilized nation. Eldership succession law is allowed. If dawnbreakers would have divine marriage paired with something else than polygamy it would be tier 1. Reforming the Aztec faith is possible but extremely difficult. Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods.. Pagan non-nomads normally requires the Old Gods or Holy Fury DLC to be playable. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. So I decided to update my list after I played some Holy Fury. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. You must log in or register to reply here. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Synergies, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/holy-fury-reformation-doctrine-list.1115209/. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. Characters are assigned Zodiac traits on birth and by decision. Reforming also provides access to the full set of feudal succession laws. They are only playable in the 769 bookmark unless Ruler Designer is used. Eastern Orthodoxy, Miaphysite Christianity, Allows sacrifice of thralls captured in raids, Allows sacrifice of courtiers to read entrails, Once per decade interpretation of stars by religious head or court chaplain if none exists, Education improvement synergy and Meliorism improvement synergy. Independent lieges of this religion can construct pyramids. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. However, it is good when you expanded before reformation, and want to settle down and rely more on our vassals and domain rather than stats of our ruler. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. Lose piety when at war against faithful.Penalty to Spymaster steal technology. As I said in OP, if you are Roman Emperor you cannot designate heir for your top tittle. =/. The default succession law for tribal unreformed pagans is elective gavelkind. Feudal rulers bordering rivers will eventually increase their fort level to the point that Germanic pagans can no longer navigate those rivers. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. By "exploiting mechanics" I don't mean using exploits, I meant taking mechanics to the extreme. If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. Pagan religions may gain a religious head and a Great Holy War (Crusade CB) if they reform. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. Stuff that sounds good at first sometimes turns out to be not so great. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. Expect frequent raids and wars between realms that accept the new faith and those that reject it. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding. With Holy Fury, each pagan faith (except Aztecs) has an associated Warrior Lodge, a society focused on combat. If a king of a faith stays true to the old ways, and many vassals convert to the new religion, this can cause tremendous upheaval in a nation, and lead to multiple, simultaneous and devastating deep revolts. Stability is useless without Eldership law. In the north, start in Novgorod, Poland, or Kiev and form your corresponding de jure kingdom first, then work your way to the other two holy sites. The other side of the coin is that peace is seen as unbecoming. Haruspicy and Astrology effects. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. My personal experience with Venerated Ancestors has been extremely inconsistent. 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