You gossiping Jezebel. or debate this issue live on our message boards. For that reason, I dont feel comfortable attaching the protest to the Preacher Boys Podcast at this time. I suspect Ive attended and preached at a lot more IFB churches than you have. 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(a girl who was a member of the church and Schaap was counseling her) For more information on Jack Schaap, please read the Chicago Magazine article, Let Us Prey: Big Trouble at First Baptist Church. My heart goes out to her and her family and my prayers are that she can put all of this behind her, move forward and have a happy and bright future. You dont think he deserved a prison sentence for what he did? Pastor Jack Schaap will be sentenced Wednesday for having sex with an underage girl. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. Joseph Refused 2. Let them be bitter. Divorce is allowed in the Bible in cases of infidelity. Oh yes she is. No comments have so far been submitted. A look through its contents reveals plenty of cringe-inducing behaviors. They have grown in popularity in recent years, and are mostly a phenomenon of modern times. Unholy and delusional thou art and shall suffer, oh yes, suffer beyond your wildest fears I do not feel comfortable with the fact that anyone could take a picture of the peaceful gathering and position it as a riot, bitter people screaming at NVBC attendees, or people who hate church on some vendetta. Schaaps sad and frightful case is only a drop in the bucket. But did she even try?. I know a lot of my fellow Bible College students would have loved to receive the grace that some preachers I know get. Believe me it takes two.. .and if you dont believe that, then I have a brooklyn bridge to sell you! I went to Hammond Baptist High School with Cindy, she was nice, but this was a cult church! (Wow, this is kinda funreminds me of childhood!) Optics matter. So what if they are bitter. Should be fired or resign fron being pastor at fbc hammond. Did she even ask him if he still wanted to be married to her? They pleaded for lenient sentencing. The two spoke on the phone or texted each other more than 600 times, according to prosecutors. I will pray for you. So sad to hear that! I saw things in Schaap that I did not add up until later that now make complete sense. https://brucegerencser.net/2020/09/bruce-you-are-a-very-sad-and-bitter-old-man/. If he's convinced a parole board that he's reformed enough to be out of prison after committing the felonious acts he has, then he's in line for an academy award. Everyone gets married by Contract with the Government thats why the Government grants the divorce. He was denied early release, citing his . Jack Schaap's Sexual Misconduct CONTINUES Behind Bars Eric Skwarczynski Jun 22, 2020 "In 2013 - the year after [Schaap] was sentenced by Judge Lozano - Defendant admitted putting his 'hand under [the] jacket and in the crotch area of a female visitor,' for which he was disciplined." I was asked to be a detective. YOUR GOD HAS DOOMED YOU TO CAPITL LETTERS AND WAIT, OH MY! ! You will feel the crushing great weight of humanity as she walks over you now and forever, as the minions of miracles crush your loved ones with Humanitys Judgement, the plagues of comeuppance, the horrors of your ways! I gotta shit, and hes been wasting all the toilet paper. sort by. (Not saying Bruce is bitter.) View arrest records, background check report etc. Dating with a Purpose: Common Sense Dating Principles for Couples, Parents, and Youth Workers. He was born on 6 April 1951 in New York, New York, United States, he was 70 years at the time of his demise. Schaap pleaded. More than 15,000 people attend services on the weekend. If all Baptist churches would rightly divide their King James Bibles, wed have a different world. However, my fellowship can be strained, but just like my relationship with my earthly parents cannot be undone my relationship with my heavenly Father is unchanging. You mention biblical forgiveness. It turns out that the charismatic youth leader had more than evangelism on his mind. Spamming threadbare Christian clichs makes Baby Jebus cry. Why not look at what the bible says. ! I have been accused of attacking the Church at large, as well as Christianity and local churches broadly. I dont want to put risk on anyone, and also, want to respect the current mandates and CDC recommendations. As it is, from what Ive read by, and about, Bruce, it seems that it is the best decision he ever made (after marrying Polly). Investigators later recovered photos taken inside the cabin showing a grinning Schaap on a couch in an intimate pose with the girl and also french-kissing [her] while touching her in a sexual manner.. UPDATE: On May 4th, 2022 Jack Schaap was given an early release. . If not then boot his hiney out the door. No matter. Do you have empirical evidence for your claim that Jack Schaap, Jack Hyles (David Hyles, Bob Gray?) You are an intelligent man, and I can respect your view points with the hope that I can counter your arguments with intelligent, spiritual reasoning. After an immense amount of time and thought weighing it out, Im making the decision to cancel the event. In 1973, First Baptist saw attendances exceeding 25,000 people. Pastor Jack Schaap, who groomed a teenage girl for sex, is out of prison Megachurch preacher Jack Schaap told his victim that sex was "exactly what Christ desires for us." by Hemant Mehta May 07, 2022 Reading Time: 7 minutes Jack Schaap preaches at Pastors' School 2010 (via YouTube) Reading Time: 7 minutes Pastor Jack Schaap is out of prison. I would ask you to make a correction on this moot point you have made. Yet dont forget this, pray for the one who is in prison also, for Jesus tells us Theres no excuse for that, and no amount of gods grace or forgiveness gets him off the hook. The church was built around two things: the bus ministry and Jack Hyles. According to your personal interpretation, divorce because of adultery is permitted. Telling you that you must believe them would not change that fact. 4) Schaap having sex with the teen in his office. 3. But there was a point in time when I realized I was lost and in sin. According to a document sent to me today, on May 28, 2014, Cindy Schaap was granted a divorce from Jack Schaap. Sincerely, I can say that the motivation behind the event was a positive one. Are they still married? So his opinion is hardly one to be dismissed lightly. Schaap pleaded. He does not bear that sword of justice. This Wednesday, we will hear the sentencing of disgraced pastor Jack Schaap, who has pleaded guilty to having sex with an underage girl who attended his church. Morris, yes, fearful thing. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. Got thrown in prison for 22yrs. Im more than willing to do so. The legal age of consent in the state of Indiana is 16, the lowest age allowed in any state. In 2011 Clarence Sexton went to Pastor's school at FBC Hammond and showered the church and now-disgraced pastor Jack Schaap with praise. Jack Schapp's published books include Marriage: The Divine Intimacy and Dating with a Purpose: Common Sense Dating Principles for Couples, Parents, and Youth Workers. Yet, here you are commenting. Pastors are not Policemen. Since when is being board certified any indication of competence? In January 2013,Chicago Magazineran a front-page report entitled Let Us Prey: Big Trouble at First Baptist Church, documenting ten cases of sexual crimes and fornications committed by pastors associated with First Baptist. It has been shared and developed by well-intentioned Christian authors. Jack Schaap commited felony under Federal Jurisdiction USA. I suggest you have a close look at the website called Stop the Baptist predators. Jack's relationship status is married. If you have a car stolen who should you call? ( https://www.facebook.com/stoppingpastoralabuse ) TRIGGER WARNING: The following article contains descriptions as of sexual, and mental abuse toward minors, and one photographic piece of evidence of child abuse and neglect. Never fear Morris, jus kiddin ya, ya dingwilly wobbler Have you always been like this, did they get you young like they got me? But his excuses riled federal prosecutors, who countered by filing a 23-page response that revealed previously withheld details of the disgraced 55-year-old pastors actions. Yes, what happened is that I walked away from Christianity. According to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research, most current mega-churches were founded after 1955 after larger churches started to become more appealing to many church-goers. Sitting across from you in a session, I would ask you why you are so quick to jump to the bitterness conclusion. Let them talk about why they are bitter? Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Schapp's wife, Cindy, is the daughter of the late founder of the church, Rev. ! What difference does it make which state she is living in or that she has moved to a different city in another state from where her father established his corporation? Factual. yes, that really makes you an expert, doesnt it? I know her heavenly Father loves her and is caring for her and that she is finding comfort in Him. But if you can find the patience within yourself, please hear me out, I won't be long. Do you have any judo or karate, my friend? It makes me so sad. Two plus two is four, whether we believe it or not. 5. Call the police. Jack Schaap, 54, had been pastor of the First Baptist Church of Hammond in Indiana for 11 years, but was let go in July after a deacon saw a text on his phone from the teenager, allegedly with a picture of the two of them kissing. Please stop lying about IFB churches. Which Schaap is guilty of. He might as well as strung together various sentences from one of the Harry Potter books as to do the same with the Bible. Except it be for fornication applies only to breaking a legal engagement, not ending a marriage. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});
. Jack is doing time for grooming and seducing a minor- Fundies, get over it ! Getentrepreneurial.com: Resources for Small Business Entrepreneurs in 2022. He admitted to taking a sixteen-year-old girl across state lines and attempting to have sex with her. The so-called exception clause is absent in the passages on divorce in Mark and Luke. Donations to his church were down and he said he had to lay off employees and was working up to 100 hours a week, the Chicago Sun-Times reported. Nice try. You are probably a better man than I am morally. And yet for some odd reason I am still a believer. I do not consent to Jesus, or anyone else, dying in my place. Blame and shame go deep and people say ridiculous things, juju, to keep their lids down tight so that they dont have to face the truth. Many focus on seeker services, which often offer little deep theology and instead appeal to sceptics and non-believers. Jack Schaap, 54, had been pastor of the First Baptist Church of Hammond in Indiana for 11 years, but was let go in July after a deacon saw a text on his phone from the teenager, allegedly with. Nor do I want to give the signal to pastors that I am going to show up on their sidewalk with a picket sign the minute there is a disagreement. You do know that a differing opinion is not a lie, right? Just sayin! Marriage by Contract signing is permitted divorcement. This memorandum will be instrumental in determining the pastors sentence. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. So, if this rebirth has happened it cannot unhappen. Go to your pastor for Comfort! I know what you're thinking "Oh great, another guy offering his unsolicited takes on purity culture. https://brucegerencser.net/2022/02/ifb-man-admits-that-i-am-a-better-man-morally-than-he-is-but-tells-me-im-going-to-hell-anyway/. Daves sister, Cindy, said, I won thousands of souls before I finished my teen years (The Fundamental Man, p. 271). He also said it would be a 'cold day in hell before I get my theology from a woman', adding: 'Your soul is going to hell because of what Eve did.'. Reminding me of the dumb Canadian judge, now retired who snapped at a rape victim: Why couldnt you just keep your legs closed together? by. All men do. So, whether or not this man is born again or not I do not know. You know that they are not the Southern Baptists or Catholics or LDS, you know that right. Never again. Please pass this on to anyone and everyone possible! *sigh*. Potiphar Went to the POLICE! Now I no longer enjoy those old ways and I do try to do better. No secrets here, no skeletons in the closet, no bodies buried underneath the communion table. He does sound like bad news. Dismissed: Dr Jack Schaap, who was the pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond for more than a decade, was let go in August, Big city: Shaap's wife, Cindy, second left, is the daughter of famed Baptist Rev Jack Hyles; here, they're pictured in front of Chicago's Buckingham Fountain, Caught: A deacon of First Baptist Church saw a picture on Schaap's phone from a teenage girl; the picture allegedly showed the two kissing. Marriage is not a contract between two people; it is a covenant between a couple and God. ALL YOU CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL (LIKE KEVIN & ETC. Why not look at what the bible says. One, for his trips to an Illinois forest preserve, was that he needed to spend time with God walking and praying. To explain his taking the girl alone to his Michigan cabin, he told his assistant that he needed to spend extended periods of time alone with the girl to save herboth literally and spirtually. The goal of the rally - like everything I do with the Preacher Boys Podcast - is to try to shed light on abuse, give a voice to survivors, and spark helpful conversations. Its a shame we dont put to death adulterous men like they did in the Old Testament, then Cindy wouldnt have to go through a divorce, she would be a widow and could remarry on her own accord. *sigh*. As most of you know, Jack Schaap, former pastor of First Baptist Church, Hammond, Indiana, is serving a 12 year sentence in federal prison for having sexual relations with a minor. Mega-churches are houses of worship with 2,000 or more members and weekly attendees. Can forgiveness only arise out of a biblical mindset? Divorce is not forbidden, actually scripture makes parameters of when divorce is acceptable and one includes adultery. i was there also between 1986-88 and always though Jack Schaap was a pervert and was just waiting for the chance to take over FBC when Dr. Hyles passed away. I hope you will understand and correct the inaccuracies contained in what I have read here today. I think maybe she and Linda have been through enough at FBC. It's equally toxic (more on that in a minute), but it's less painful. When Jack Schaap found out that Kaifetz read Glover's book, it completely ended their friendship. Ill speak to you ANYTIME about Jesus! - Kaifetz wrote a 187 page book called "Profaned Pulpit: The Jack Schaap Story." In it he focuses more on his personal experiences with Jack Schaap, as well as the corruption that was going on under Hyles' leadership. IBF huh? Convicted felon Jack Schaap was once the senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Hammond, IN. Who has done the cover up? IFB churches seem to be involved in scandals (far too often) and shouldnt the hypocrisy of the leadership be exposed? As I mentioned in the first point, I don't wish to give others the opportunity to say that this is a full-fledged attack on the Christian religion in it's entirety. She writes the book A Wifes Purpose and then divorces Jack when she said she would always stand by him. this. I am so glad she is divorced from that cad. Over his career, he has received 6 Grammy Awards.
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